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May 4, 2017 at 2:51 pm #1709kwstoneParticipant
Site is 3×1 with 60 fan ACC. We have been in operation for about 3 years and are beginning to see high speed pinion failures. Vibration signature is very distinct with harmonics around GM frequency. The pinion damage is seen as gouging on only 1 or 2 teeth near the site of initial tooth contact on the helix. I suspect damage is being initiated when the fans are idle – when the anti reverse mechanism is engaged and the fan sees cyclical loading from wind transients, the pinion can impact/rattle in whatever tooth position it is locked in.
These Hansen gearboxes are rated for 430 HP, yet the motors installed are 175 HP. I am also seeing signs of slight misalignment, which could be per design on the gearbox to account for torsional loading during operation. However, being paired with an undersized motor may not provide the design loading on the pinion to fully engage with the gear.
Does anyone have a similar configuration or seen similar issues?
May 4, 2017 at 3:16 pm #1711huubhubregtseParticipant
we had similar problems with a wet cooling tower.
according to Hansen it was a lubrication problem and bearing tolerance.
The gearbox was repaired in the factory and works fine now.
as our office is about 50 miles from the factory personal contact is not difficult.
I could get some information about this problem from them if you like.
May 4, 2017 at 3:21 pm #1712Anibal QuezadaParticipant
May you please confirm your contact credentials for further talking on the issue? Our current configuration is a smaller one and the gearbox type follows below:
HANSEN INDUSTRIAL GEARBOXES
No.=2016 / AM0005
Pnom/Tnom=298 kW / 29,96 kNm
min-1=1800 / 94,99
EP Gear Oil ISO 3448
VG 220 0->50 C
GREASE QS Mineral
I look forward to hearing from you…
Chilca Uno Power Plant
Gerencia de Operaciones
ENGIE ENERGIA PERU S.A.
República de Panamá 3490 – San Isidro, Lima PERÚ
May 4, 2017 at 4:29 pm #1719ctboxesParticipant
ID like to help. Can you send me your contact information with the gearbox details?
I work for Sumitomo who recently purchased Hansen and I have factory contacts in the US and Europe.
May 4, 2017 at 4:46 pm #1720kwstoneParticipant
Thank you for the replies, I am working on gathering more information and will reach back out.
May 14, 2017 at 10:32 am #email@example.comParticipant
Just a thought that some of the wear can be due to the uneven loading on the fan blades due to wind caused stress. Saw photos of similar, actually worse at a larger facility .
May 14, 2017 at 3:01 pm #1751huubhubregtseParticipant
Hi Gary and other persons.
Yes, the impact of the wind is big due to the rocketing effect of the fan during wind.
This has an impact on the outgoing bearing. The high speed pinion is on the motor side and should not be affected by the wind.
To withstand the forces due to the wind we always specify an extra heavy bearing on the outgoing shaft, service factor 2.5 or higher.
we recently invstigated a failure of the high speed pinion.
It appeared to be a lubrication problem. The oil level should be just halfway if by some reasons this is not the case, the bearing overheats and get damaged.
the result of this case was a complete failure of the gear box.
May 15, 2017 at 6:22 am #1753Desmond de HaanParticipant
What has the manufacturer given as feedback regarding the cause of the failure?
I would be happy to offer our assistance in troubleshooting your issue.
Due dilligence is appropraite for severe failures only three yeard into operation. I am sure the gearbox manufacturer would be interested in helping to identify the root cause.
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